Choose the Lumive Guardian G1 for a 35-55 mm door with a 4585 pocket and Wi-Fi and app control. Choose Yale YDM7116A for its 40-90 mm range, DoorSense, auto-locking, or capacities of 100 fingerprints, PINs, and RFID cards. Confirm fit before ordering.
Choose Guardian G1 if…
- Your 35-55 mm door has a measured 4585 pocket, a common cutout in Lumive’s Saudi installation experience.
- You want Wi-Fi, Lumive App remote unlocking, and up to 300 users.
- You want the lock, Lumive smart-home devices, and automations managed in one app.
- You value 5 IC cards, a two-year warranty, a 14-day return, and delivery within 1-3 business days.
Choose Yale YDM7116A if…
- Your door is within its 40-90 mm range and its 60 mm backset and panel dimensions suit.
- You want separate capacities of 100 fingerprints, PINs, and RFID cards.
- You value DoorSense, auto-locking, monitoring, notifications, guest management, and security alarms.
- You want a universal handle or connected options and accept that remote functions require separately sold modules.
Door fit
The Lumive Guardian G1 uses a 4585 body for 35-55 mm doors. Its complete cutout template and a 45 mm by 85 mm breakdown are unpublished, so 4585 is only the stated designation. In Lumive’s Saudi installation experience, most apartment and villa doors use it; a measured replacement usually avoids re-cutting.
Yale YDM7116A is a motorised mortise lock for 40-90 mm doors. Its page states a 60 mm backset, a 68(W) x 340(H) x 40.18(D) mm front, and a 72(W) x 344(H) x 36(D) mm back. The complete lock-body or cutout size is unpublished. Compare dimensions and check the manufacturer’s page; do not assume 4585 compatibility.
Before ordering:
- Measure door thickness at the lock position.
- Measure pocket height and depth and the lock’s backset.
- Record the door, pocket, and existing mortise measurements.
- Compare measurements with the published range and confirm unlisted dimensions.
Send measurements to Lumive before ordering the Guardian G1 product. Review the smart door lock category, but obtain a door-specific fit check.
Comparison table
| Specification | Lumive Guardian G1 | Yale YDM7116A |
|---|---|---|
| Lock type and body | 4585 mortise body | Motorised mortise; 60 mm backset. Complete body/cutout size unpublished; check the manufacturer’s page |
| Door thickness or dimensions | 35-55 mm; cutout dimensions unpublished, so confirm with Lumive | 40-90 mm; front 68(W) x 340(H) x 40.18(D) mm, back 72(W) x 344(H) x 36(D) mm |
| Unlock methods | Fingerprint, anti-peeping passcode, RFID card, app remote unlock, mechanical key; 5 IC cards included | Fingerprint, PIN, RFID, mechanical key; Yale Home App with required modules; 2 mechanical keys stated |
| Connectivity, app, and ecosystem | Wi-Fi; Lumive App with plugs, switches, lighting, sensors, hubs/gateways, and trackers; in-app automations | Yale Home App; remote and voice functions need separately sold modules and bridge. An India datasheet lists Bluetooth and separately sold Wi-Fi; confirm Gulf applicability |
| Power and emergency power | 4 included AAA batteries; emergency power port and mechanical-key fallback | Standard 9V battery for emergency power and mechanical-key override; primary battery type/count is not published, so check the manufacturer’s page |
| User capacity | Manage up to 300 users; up to 100 fingerprints | Up to 100 fingerprints, 100 PIN codes, and 100 RFID cards |
| Weather rating | IP55 appears only in an Amazon secondary chart; confirm with Lumive | Not published in checked official sources; check the manufacturer’s page |
| Warranty, returns, and delivery | Two-year warranty; 14-day return; delivery within 1-3 business days | Yale’s India catalogue lists a warranty of up to 5 years; confirm the warranty that applies in your country, plus returns and delivery, with the seller |
| Installation service | Paid service in covered cities, for the Lumive product only | – |
The checked Amazon listing shows list price SAR 449.99 (see the product page for the current offer). This comparison does not list a Yale price; check the current price with the seller.
Setup and apps
Guardian G1 uses Wi-Fi and Lumive App remote unlocking. It is managed with Lumive plugs, switches, lighting, sensors, hubs or gateways, and trackers. Automations can be built there. Confirm additional connectivity details with Lumive.
Yale YDM7116A supports fingerprint, PIN, and RFID. Remote and voice functions require the separately sold Yale Access Module and Yale Connect Wi-Fi Bridge. An India datasheet names Bluetooth and Wi-Fi; confirm Gulf applicability. DoorSense reports closed or ajar status, while guest management, monitoring, and notifications support oversight.
Installation and Lumive service
These prices apply only to the Lumive product. For 1 lock: SAR 199 standalone or SAR 150 with product purchase. For 2-3 locks: SAR 149 per lock standalone or SAR 120 with purchase. For 4 or more: SAR 99 per lock standalone or SAR 80 with purchase.
Coverage includes Riyadh, Jeddah, Dammam, Makkah, Madinah, Taif, Tabuk, Abha, Qassim, Hail, Jubail, Yanbu, Khobar, Arar, and Najran. Review the installation service and send measurements. In Lumive’s experience, 4585-for-4585 is usually simpler; another size can require more work. Metal cutting needs suitable tools.
FAQ
Will Guardian G1 fit my existing door?
Guardian G1 supports 35-55 mm doors and uses a 4585 body. In Lumive’s Saudi installation experience, most apartment and villa doors already use that size, but this does not guarantee your door. The exact cutout template is unpublished. Measure thickness, pocket, and backset, then send the measurements to Lumive before ordering.
Can Yale YDM7116A replace a lock in a 4585 pocket?
Compatibility has not been established. Yale YDM7116A publishes a 60 mm backset and its front and back panel dimensions, but no complete lock-body or cutout size. Those facts do not prove that it fits a 4585 pocket. Measure the existing mortise and compare it with the competitor’s published dimensions. Have a technician measure before assuming interchangeability.
Which lock supports more credentials?
Guardian G1 manages up to 300 users and separately lists storage for up to 100 fingerprints; it also ships with 5 IC cards. Yale YDM7116A states separate limits of up to 100 fingerprints, 100 PIN codes, and 100 RFID cards. Because these capacities are described differently, choose by the credential types and administration pattern you actually need rather than adding the Yale limits into one total.
What extra hardware does Yale YDM7116A need for remote control?
The official UAE page says remote lock and unlock plus voice-assistant functions require a Yale Access Module and a Yale Connect Wi-Fi Bridge, both sold separately. Yale’s official India material also identifies Bluetooth and separately sold Wi-Fi, but applicability to Gulf units should be confirmed. The Guardian G1 specification instead lists Wi-Fi and remote unlocking through the Lumive App.
What happens when the batteries are depleted?
Guardian G1 uses 4 included AAA batteries and provides an emergency power port plus a mechanical-key fallback. Yale YDM7116A accepts a standard 9V battery for emergency power and has a mechanical-key override, with 2 keys stated. Its normal operating battery type and count are not published in the checked official sources, so verify them on the manufacturer’s page before ordering.
What warranty, return, and delivery terms apply to Guardian G1?
The Lumive product page states a two-year warranty, a 14-day return, and delivery within 1-3 business days.
Sources
- Official page for Yale YDM7116A — checked on 2026-09-21
- Official Yale India datasheet for Yale YDM7116A — checked on 2026-09-21
- Lumive Guardian G1 product page — checked on 2026-09-20
- Official Yale India one-pager for Yale YDM7116A — checked on 2026-09-21
- Amazon listing for Guardian G1 — checked on 2026-09-20
